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Can someone who has believed on the Lord wind up lost?

Yes, you can fall away from faith I'm not saved because I'm good. I'm saved because He's good!My website: www.bradfreeman.comMy blog: bradcfreeman.tumblr.com/

At's sorta what I thought, BUT, but I don't think it is as simple as I was lead to believe as a child. I do believe God is very loving and more lenient with his children than many strict followers believe. And NO I do not believe in trying to see how far one can go before they fall into the Abyss, But when my sons go against my will, I do give them space.I believe the heavenly FAther also is in fact the good father Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

You can't lose your salvation. You can surrender it but you can't lose it. Nothing can separate us from God. There is no sin so great that could cause you to lose your salvation. No you don't need to repent for every sin you commit. Jesus finished it once and for all on the cross. Just like any good relationship you will want to seek forgiveness when you are wrong that comes out of love and a good heart not out of a need to try to maintain a certain standard or position. There I said it and yes i'm a COG minister. Before you bash me there is a lot more of people thinking like me now a days in our movement. Just ask Loran.

Glad to see some folks are finally catching on to scriptural teaching on salvation. I am 75 years old. Been part of the COG from birth. I do not remember any time I did not see salvation in this light.

Now, consider that if a person never knew the way of righteousness, they are, according to many of us, going to hell. But Peter says that it is BETTER for a person to, in effect, go to hell...than to (paraphrasing) backslide. I wonder if Jesus was not on the same thing here when He said that He preferred people to be EITHER hot or cold...not lukewarm? In other words, be on fire for God...or be so cold as to, apparently, go to hell. A person CAN fall away. I don't necessarily think it is in some ritualistic I hereby denounce Jesus and my faith, but in, as the Bible says, (Titus 1:16

Hey my friend, don't see you here often anymore. But as always I enjoy and appreciate your comments. I will not go as far as 'never lose' but you said it better than I could express it. Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

Is Loran still in our movement?I thought it was said a couple of years ago he was pulling out for some reason

Now, consider that if a person never knew the way of righteousness, they are, according to many of us, going to hell. But Peter says that it is BETTER for a person to, in effect, go to hell...than to (paraphrasing) backslide. I wonder if Jesus was not on the same thing here when He said that He preferred people to be EITHER hot or cold...not lukewarm? In other words, be on fire for God...or be so cold as to, apparently, go to hell. A person CAN fall away. I don't necessarily think it is in some ritualistic I hereby denounce Jesus and my faith, but in, as the Bible says, (Titus 1:16KJV) They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. Would you agree that the bible teachers in order to get saved one must Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved? It didn't add any other conditions to it. Saved to me speaks of eternity with Christ. Many people quote Timothy where he gives a list of sins you can't commit in order to inherit the kingdom. We teach that means heaven. What if the kingdom was what God was trying to bring us into here on earth. We have the keys to the kingdom. That a person can believe in Jesus Christ and be saved because its not his will any should perish but continue to do the things not pleasing to Christ and miss all the blessing He has for them on this earth and the rewards In heaven? What if we should rethink everything we have thought? As far as losing your salvation. If you can lose it than it wasn't HIS to begin with. I think it's crazy to teach that we come to faith through grace but than turn around and teach we must stay saved by works? Jude says that He is able to keep me from falling. What does that mean? I'm holy because of what he has none not because of what I have done. My righteousness is as filthy rags. I think the misconception with this teaching is people think we preach an everything goes gospel. That is not the case. I argue that once you realized that it really is all about Jesus and the price was paid through him. You will want to live as closely to him as you can and do what is right in his eyes. But even when you don't, you are still his son or daughter. You might get mad at your kids but you would never disown them.One last scripture people quote. Be ye perfect? Let me ask you how that is working out for you?

Hey my friend, don't see you here often anymore. But as always I enjoy and appreciate your comments. Hey my friend how are you? I stop by on occasion but don't post here much. I will be honest sometimes this site brings out the worst in me so I try to stay away.