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More specifically, teachin the folk that if they give and check GENERAL/INTERNATIONAL TITLE that 10% leaves the church.

First, I don't think we should do that, since it smacks of trying to find a way to not play fair.Second, EVEN if it is printed, I think that the ENTIRE tithe of the tithe, whether tithe here or tithe there, should go for what is expected by the Church of God.LASTLY, I have come to believe that to end all the foolishness, we ought to simply send in, say, 5% of EVERYTHING that comes in--tithe, offering, etc. About the only exception I can think of is if the money is designated MISSION, since, presumably, the entire amount of that is going to missions.

Excelleant idea. That would discourage dishonesty.

Logically when there is a way to circumvent a system someone will find a way. I don't think the tithe envelope is the place (besides we have enough on there anyway! ( ))I know it has been said many times that some churches DO promote designating 'General Fund' to be checked on the tithe envelope. In truth I have NEVER encountered it at churches I have been a member or visited.However, stating my personal point of view, I have no hard and fast feeling either way. I agree with C6th pretty much. I like to feel where I pay my tithe (Or offerings of 10%+), that the administrators there are forth right and honest and know how to use the money wisely. Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

Has anyone else just given in cash right into the plate? Is there someone keeping track to condemn you if they don't have records of you paying what they think is 10% of your income

I agree that it is a widespread, wholesale problem. The blame lies not at any one person's feet. To play devil's advocate here; I wonder how many pastors who are fed up with poor expenditures from HQ are willing to provide

Why do people need to pay tithes into the General fund? Should they not give in an area where they can cheerly give into that place in the church where the Lord leads them?

I know that Da Sheik is correct that the majority of our church members have no idea the distribution of the 'tithe'. We as members do know that when we give to the LWWB or the 'Building Fund' that it stays at the church if we designate to Missions we KNOW it goes to HQ.But any time I have talked TOT to fellow church members, they are surprised that a % of Tithe is required, but most still do not care. Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

GOOFY! The real issue to me is that we've actually got people in leadership that would blatantly disregard the polity of the Church in such a way by legitimizing the circumvention of their membership covenant

Hey Quiet,