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For some reason the COG (and other fundamentals) congregations cannot handle 'teaching', that is good teaching. Hayford (since his name came up lately) does a great job of teaching in his sermons. For some reason many of my brothers and sisters consider both as separate. I have always thought a sermon should teach.Since I lost my hearing and depend on both lip reading and hearing, I love to hear good teaching. I do not mind some running and shouting as one is delivering a 'SERMON' but it is nice to HEAR SOMETHING that blesses, instructs and tells me something. One of the things I remember from my dad was his statement to mom once over dinner. Honey, I feel I have accomplished what God intended if our people can remember at least ONE thing all week, from a sermon that God has given me. Most Christians cannot remember what a sermon was about, much less a great teaching point!I have mentioned it before, but we once visited RR's church in MO. The first part of the service was a teaching segment that we have always enjoyed talking about, it was a blessing.I only mention this because for the past few months our pastor has had us meet in the fellowship hall, where he sits and teaches. Our SS nite services had dwindled to 10-20 scattered over 300 seats. The last few SS nights we have gained up to near 40. He is doing a great job teaching and we are getting involved. Our church is doing well after a split that I NEVER envisioned in our church, the split happened at the pastoral change. I was so disappointed in some of my good brothers and sisters. But life goes on and God is Good! Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

This^^^^^^I have heard many great preachers referred to as he's a great teacher but not a very good preacher.Sad, but many congregations expect loud and wildly emotional or it ain't real preaching “Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”

Yes, very well said, and I agree with FLRon's comment.Again tonight we as a church received a great 'sermon' hidden in good teaching by our pastor. I have never seen our 'church CORE' so enthused about night services. I am very surprised and happy with what I see and hear. God is good and our church is blessed with a pastor with insight! Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

Yesterday, we had the best of both.In the morning service many were blessed as the Spirit of God moved mightily.A message in Tongues with the Interpretation encouraged folks to bring their petitions and needs before the Lord in prayer.No formal sermon given, none needed.Last night we were blessed to have Dr Byron Henderson teach on the ashes of the red heifer.He spoke with a power point presentation well over an hour.No one left as everyone was edified.We were pleased to welcome some Church of God folk who do not hold Sunday Evening services at their Church. The best of both.Balanced, as I believe it ought to be Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church

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I enjoy good teaching and preaching. I guess it kind of depends on who's doing it. Much as I love Perry Stone, I enjoy his preaching a lot more than his teaching. His teaching tends to bore me or I just get lost with what he's trying to say.As it's been said, a good preacher has teaching in his message. I enjoy both the loud, Pentecostal-type message, but I also can hang with a gentler, calmer message that has meat in it.Seems like I heard someone say the difference in preaching and teaching is that preaching gives real-life illustrations. I'm not sure if that's true or not.I've been teaching adult Sunday School for more than 15 years, and I am pretty comfortable doing that. But my pastor asked me to fill in for him one Sunday morning last year when he was going to be out of town, and it really freaked me out thinking about it. At the same time, I knew he wouldn't ask me if he didn't feel directed of the Lord. And when I prayed about it, I felt God saying to me, Are you going to walk through this door I've opened? So I did...But it was definitely a different experience. More of Him...less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name

If preaching doesn't have teaching in it - what exactly are they saying?Somebody give me an example of preaching with no teaching in it.And if there is such a thing - would anyone come back to hear this preacher a second time?I'm pretty sure I wouldn't sit through the whole first sermon.mumbo dogface banana patch spritzer frere dank

WEll you ask a hard question. If you have not experienced it, good for you. To me it is when many good things are said, but none are tied together. Taking clips from scripture thru out the bible, out of context, but they sound great. Entertaining with stories and good jokes, but when it is over there was no 'one message' to tie the thoughts in a solid package that my mind could take home and remember. Most delivered with fervor, some shouting and lots of 'say amen and repeat after me's'.Yeah that all sounds silly, but there are many messages delivered that sound just as silly. Of course any scripture is good and should be a blessing, but when it has no rhyme nor reason it is a sounding brass!JMO of cours Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

WEll you ask a hard question. If you have not experienced it, good for you. To me it is when many good things are said, but none are tied together. Taking clips from scripture thru out the bible, out of context, but they sound great. Entertaining with stories and good jokes, but when it is over there was no 'one message' to tie the thoughts in a solid package that my mind could take home and remember. Most delivered with fervor, some shouting and lots of 'say amen and repeat after me's'.Yeah that all sounds silly, but there are many messages delivered that sound just as silly. Of course any scripture is good and should be a blessing, but when it has no rhyme nor reason it is a sounding brass!JMO of course Thanks cojak.If that is what everyone means by it - then I guess I HAVE heard it.Cheap applause lines, Homos are ruining this country - Apple pie is great Give Jesus a hand - yeah I've been in those. And no, I don't ever go back for a second helping

It appears that those on this board believe preaching is louder and more emotional than teaching. That preaching is fiery and teaching is dry. That preaching aims at the heart while teaching aims for the head. Preaching is a simple attempt to stir the emotions while teaching is more methodical and systematic. I don’t agree. Preaching is when the speaker is announcing something that God is doing or is about to do. Preaching is telling people good news from God. Preaching is urgent and will change the lives of the hearers (i.e. sermon on the Lord’s Return). Teaching, on the other hand, explains to people how we know the Lord will return, for example. Teaching gives explanation of the good news and backs it up with scripture.