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I don't get it. She was born and raised in a pentecostal home/fam. Went on mission trips to India on her dime. She is not in that lifestyle but embracing it as okay.I have watched the gay thing play out. I am seeing more and more young people see it as okay. This however took me aback.Why? Is it because it's hip to embrace that as acceptable?

Don't know how old your niece is,but there is a definite trend among younger people that these things just don't matter. Case in point,in the CoG I attend there is a lady there who has two lesbian daughters. She is devastated by this,as they were raised in the church. This lady has went on dozens of mission trips all around the world and her daughter's as well. I chalk it up to the hour we are living in. And none of us should think our family is exempt from these issue “Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”

We've had youth in our church who went through the high school years & embraced the gay lifestyle (one of these youth was my Asst, Pastor's oldest son). We had a really pretty girl in our church who would cause most boys to stop in their tracks & beg her for attention - one day she decided to go lesbian & she went hard core butch all the way & even covered her flawless skin in tattoos. Multiple people in our church have family members who are full blown into the gay lifestyle.One lady who has 3 sons & 2 daughters struggles that both girls (early 20) are both lesbians. This is the fulfillment of scripture concerning the hardening of hearts & the words of Prophet David Wilkerson who said being gay would be popular just before the return of the Lord.(this isn't exactly the same thing but I just found out this morning that one of my regular, faithful Kids Church volunteers decided to move in with her new boyfriend & enjoy not being lonely, she has grown children - some of my leadership said, she seems really happy & this guy is good to her. ...HUH??????)The church is losing it's bearings! Empty nest syndrome is for the birds!Email me at: [email protected] planters are focused on just one thing ...introducing people to Jesus!

It is definitely connected with age and school. 'Everyone knows the Bible is out of date! This is the enlightened era.That thought permeates the younger generation. For Shame. YOu can blame church, parents, et all, but it is this Generation. What we must do is try to reach SOME! Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

This sounds familiar to me. The church of God I attend has at least two unmarried couples living together. They are active in the church and one of them holds an important position. What do you do when the pastor says he doesn't have a problem with it? The answer I believe is to move on “Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”

Just curious about what conversations you have had with your niece about her decision to embrace this. Have you talked to her about why she thinks its ok and what she feels the scripture is saying? No judgment. Just wondering what her thoughts have been

A pastor who won't confront someone else's sin won't confront yours either. After properly voicing my concerns, if things did not change, I would absolutely move on. I want to know there is someone who will lovingly call me out if I become deceived and enter into sin.Church discipline is a loving, compassionate means through which the Lord works to return the wayward to Himself. A pastor who will not confront unrepentant sin hates those who are engaging in it. There is no nicer way to say it.

The church is going to have to embrace some sort of separation akin to monasticism. I mean we are going to have to build our own concurrent society and institutions. Really, if we got back to an originalist view of the Constitution, all this sin could be dealt with by Christian local authorities without Federal Courts evoking imaginary constitutional rights for ebauchery. Christians have limited their civic involvement to a few protests rather than aggressive reform, all in the name of the imminent rapture

I can tell you that it is quite a fad for girls to have girl on girl experiences and even required for some sorority initiation. Sometimes a girls boyfriend is encouraged to join in.Has the church relaxed its standards to the point where conviction for sin is gone and acceptance has taken its place

A pastor who won't confront someone else's sin won't confront yours either. After properly voicing my concerns, if things did not change, I would absolutely move on. I want to know there is someone who will lovingly call me out if I become deceived and enter into sin.Church discipline is a loving, compassionate means through which the Lord works to return the wayward to Himself. A pastor who will not confront unrepentant sin hates those who are engaging in it. There is no nicer way to say it.He does not need to kick them out of his church. He does not need to shame them or publicly rebuke them. Their attendance should be encouraged and their presence welcomed. But his posture toward them should be one of evangelism toward unbelievers, rather than inclusion in the community of faith. Excellent comments Dave. I agree wholeheartedly that their salvation should be of the utmost importance. It’s like when I told the pastor I was made aware of someone in the church that is a social drinker he responded by saying there were several in the church that drank. That was a shock to me! I pressed him as to why he never reiterated the COG beliefs concerning alcohol to the congregation, thinking of course that a little training/education might be beneficial. The answer was that he didn’t want to offend the people. That and one of his children openly drinks alcoholic beverages. So there you have it. We no longer confront ‘sin in the camp’ yet wonder why our children are falling off the cliff into immorality “Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”