I hope you are wrong that many COG guys believe that (heresy). That kind of (and I'm trying to watch my language here) garbage is what makes Pentecostals appear to be charlatan's, off the wall, kooks. I had thought most of the name it claim it people were AG, or independent Rhema Bible Institute persuasion. I don't mean all AG's are name it claim it, but several of their prominent TV preachers are. I cannot express my disdain for the so called Prosperity doctrine strong enough. For reasons, not the least of which, is the idea that God has to do what we tell him to do. IMO, there is a name for that, and I will refrain from using it, but I'll leave it as heresy and that is the most kind word I can use. One thing I have never figured out -- if all we have to do is name it/claim it, why do we need glasses? Are eyes too difficult for God to heal? Ultimately if lack of faith is the reason we aren't healed, then why do name it/claim it EVER die? Poor Paul, it is a shame that he lacked faith isn't it. URRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Did I say I have great disdain for that heresy?