I didn't mean that every single person had abandonded God, rather, a majority has. Maybe collective was too broad If we had a gutless man like Obama as President, he may allow the nation to disentegrate like the Soviet Union, but perhaps we will have another Civil War with people from States controlled by the liberals will move to more grounded States to secede. I guess I never thought the US could have a civil war, but today, I'm not so sure. If Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska and Wyoming united, huge amounts of food and energy are concentrated in those states. I am afraid we are truly at a crises point. On a personal level, I would worry about what would happen to retirement funds, etc if such a war erupted. Then, without the heavy burden of taxes, perhaps it wouldn't be as bad as I fear. The very thought that we are seriously discussing these possibilities would have been beyond belief 30 years ago. I certainly don't advocate succession, but I can see how people may. You are right, the biggest problem we have lie in the Courts. 9 people can rule 300 million. (actually 5 can rule 300 million) Unelected courts were never intended to legislative. Unfortunately, that has become the situation where courts do what the elected politicians are unwilling to do. I hate to be a pessimist, but I really think the situation is becoming dangerous. God can change people's minds and that is what we must pray. 30 years ago, I predicted Christians in America could be the next holaucost. I think people may have thought I was crazy. Today, that possibility could occur and it won't be in 30 more years. When we become dehumanized, elimination is the logical solution to the Christian question. It can happen. Christians are the people that is holding the evil people from doing their will of having no laws to bind their evil desires. The next steps are to allow man/boy relationships, beastality, forced euthanasia for the old and sick and for the mentally deficient (Christians). The euthanasia will come from the Health Care system by refusing to treat those that are too expensive to maintain, especially if they are not paying taxes. Once the decision is made to dehumanize people's right to live, the next obvious step is to eradicate Christians.I hate to sound so pessimistic, but these ideas that seem so far fetched are not that far from reality. Just think, 30 years ago would anyone have seriously considered that we have no better sense than to allow Hell's Angel's motorcyclists from following young girls to the bathroom by simply saying they felt like a woman today? That just flies in the face of any kind of common sense. Depravity has no limits. Obama has taken this depravity to a whole different level at the stroke of a pen. I know I could sounds paranoid, but folks it isn't that big of a step for someone else to take it to the next level and declare Christians unworthy of existence. Given the rate of decline in the past 20 years, 10 years from now, at most, we could absolutely be looking at forced euthanasia. I don't want to be a prophet, but I fear I am being prophetic.