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Why is Mat 18:11 Left out of some bibles?

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Post subject: c6thplayer1: Why is Mat 18:11 Left out of some bibles?
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Maybe they didn't leave it out...


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Post subject: Aaron Scott:
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But KJV added it.


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Post subject: Mark Ledbetter: It is not included in
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earlier manuscripts. It is believed by some older manuscripts, upon which the A.V. and some other versions, added the verse to conform with Luke 19:10.The NASB includes it in brackets with a note God-HonoringChrist-CenteredBible-BasedSpirit-Led


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Post subject: bonnie knox:
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I was kind of teasing there because of the way the wording of Mark's post came across to me.It is my understanding (and this may oversimplify it) that there are two groups of manuscripts and the older ones (or you could say earlier) make up one group. The other group is not as old, but some people consider them more reliable. This second group is what the KJV came from.


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Post subject: Pastor Nations: I wouldnt think they were the older ones because the NIV goes from verse 10 to verse 12. The authors must have known something is missing.
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.This is correct. Simplified because there are volumes of info on the subject matter:There are several Greek text-types, but basically


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Post subject: Old Time Country Preacher:
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Re: Why is Mat 18:11 Left out of some bibles?


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Post subject: Pastor Nations:
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Your conclusion, Pastor Nations, while nothing wrong with it per se, is subjective at best. Most any Greek biblical scholar will tell you that the NASB is closer in accuracy to the original text than either the KJV or NKJV. .Agreed, many Greek scholars, especially within the educational system, maintain that they must go by the oldest known manuscripts, which is the Alexandrian text, and that the NASB has been considered as the most literal English translation.(However, there are plenty of others not convinced)There may be some merit to the climate preservation viewpoint for the Majority Text, but that, admittedly is speculative.A close comparison of the English translations reveals some significant differences and an increasing number of Pastors are returning to the KJV and NKJV.


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Post subject: Pastor Wright:
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I wouldnt think they were the older ones because the NIV goes from verse 10 to verse 12. The authors must have known something is missing. The verse number is missing because verse numbers aren't actually in the Biblical text, they are put there to help us find things. So they simply skipped the number rather than re-number the whole thing.Here is an interesting article on the subject of NIV vs. KJV:www.anointedlinks.com/why niv.html. [Jesus] will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. - Nicene Creed


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Post subject: bonnie knox:
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Old Timer, I just want to expound on something you bring up here when you say original text. I am assuming you are referring to the Greek from whence the English is translated. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people I have met assume that original text means the original AUTOGRAPH, as in the papyrus or what-have-you that the Apostle Paul or Matthew wrote.A little over a month ago, when our pastor was talking about fasting, he claimed that the phrase in Matthew 17:21this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting was in the original text. I'm not sure what he meant (and I'm not sure he knew what he meant, either).


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Post subject: Old Time Country Preacher: Your conclusion, Pastor Nations, while nothing wrong with it per se, is subjective at best. Most any Greek biblical scholar will tell you that the NASB is closer in accuracy to the original text than either the KJV or NKJV.
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Your conclusion, Pastor Nations, while nothing wrong with it per se, is subjective at best. Most any Greek biblical scholar will tell you that the NASB is closer in accuracy to the original text than either the KJV or NKJV.


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