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Also takes God's name in vain repeatedly. Interesting stuff: www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LtF34MrsfI

You've ruined my day.God's money being wasted on greed and excess - and it apparently makes people look deranged on TV. Copeland looked totally crazy. Christians everywhere look like fools. If I was Muslim - I would play this clip over and over to point out everything wrong with Christianity. Reporter on clip was first class. I wish she would go to Washington and ask the tough questions of Reps. and Dems - which no one does today

Agreed, she was respectful and polite but held no punches and wouldn't let him off the hook no matter what he tried.

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She didn't say those exact words, but it was pretty clear she viewed him as a far-out exception. He was in no way portrayed as representative of Christianity. At one point she mentions that both of her grandfathers were pastors who lived in relative poverty while they focused on the work of the ministry.

You're definitely not missing anything, brother. Except perhaps his crazy tiny beady little eyes. He's outside, but in a shaded hanger, so it probably isn't the sunlight making his pupils so small.

Dave, I knew the eyes were wrong - but I didn't pick up on the pupils.In one bit of fairness to Copeland - he did talk with her for 12 minutes trying to get it right - but there was no defending the original question regarding a quote from him - that he bought a plane to stay out of a tube of demons which he would have on a commercial flight. He said it wasn't the people he was talking about - then he unfortunately gave an example of it being people - but he said it was spiritual.But I want to know - why would spiritual demons be only on the plane - and not in the air - or on the ground in the coffeehouse. And don't those folks on the plane need to be around spiritual giants such as himself?He also said his ministry has saved 133 million. C'mon. I thought COG preachers spoke evangelistically. If that is true - only 45 Copelands and the whole world is saved. With Duplantis and company all around him - how is anyone not saved at this point?How many planes does a dude need? He has more than and built his own airport next to his house. He tried a diversion to say he has natural gas on his property. But how did he get the property - and how much of his wealth comes from that natural gas.Too many questions unanswered - and he looked slimy - he looked old.He made us all look bad

Good points all around, NBF.Copeland is also 82 years old. He doesn't look it by a long shot, but I try to keep that in mind when considering creepy mannerisms, etc. Older folks sometimes act a little different.The thing about the number of conversions struck me as well. I'm honestly shocked we haven't had a poster come into this thread yet to mention it in Copeland's defense. 133 million people who raised a hand or filled out a card after being told about a false Jesus who will bless them with material wealth if they just agree to make him their lord.Billy Graham preached the gospel of Jesus Christ and his organization made tremendous efforts to follow up and ensure people got plugged into local churches and got discipled, and he still mourned at the end of his life over how many false converts he must have had.

I stopped watching when he said, You've caught me off-guard. If something is really above-board and completely justified, it should be easy to promptly explain or justify. When it's more difficult than that, you ought to question whether it's really as justified as you think. AND EVEN IF IT IS, you have to take into account that there are some things that, while not of themselves wrong, can still cast a shadow on the work of the Lord.Certainly, if I were preaching to massive congregations and had to bring it every time (so to speak), yeah, I'd likely NOT want to be on a plane with massive distractions from prayer and study. I don't at all begrudge the private jet. But THREE OF THEM? That's when it gets hard to explain.Of course, if we aren't careful, we'll fall into that snare where if a preacher has a Cadillac (back in the day--today it's a Lexus, I suppose), we might think him to not be as humble as he ought to be, not rightfully using offerings, on and on.