www.cbsnews.com/news/pete-buttigieg-2020-mayor-challenges-mike-pence-on-lgbtq-rights-saying-his-quarrel-is-with-my-creator/I assume that means he thinks you are wrong, as well.If you don’t like it – your quarrel is with his Creator.Have we lost the battle? Is gay life co-equal with heterosexual life?Does the science suggesting that procreation is a vital part of the sexual act mean nothing anymore?And were the Catholics (and Pentecostals) of 75 years ago correct – in that, if sex does not have the chance of procreation – then it should not take place? (No condoms, no birth control pills). They told us it was a slippery slope if we allowed birth control…and gave sex for pleasure only a stamp of approval…were they the wise ones and we the dumb ones________________
I was aware of the Catholic approach to non-reproductive sex, but Pentecostals?
Re: I was aware of the Catholic approach to non-reproductive sex, but Pentecostals?
Definitely Pentecostals. Have you read Stephen Conn’s book Growing up Pentecostal? It was the predominate belief in the early COG________________
Definitely Pentecostals. Have you read Stephen Conn’s book Growing up Pentecostal? It was the predominate belief in the early COG.
he says to blame the creator…God made him this way.
attraction and it is all about love.
Re: I was aware of the Catholic approach to non-reproductive sex, but Pentecostals?
This is absolutely not true. This was the view of some luminaries of the early church (most notably Ambrose, Jerome, and Tertullian) who concluded that intercourse involved some measure of sin regardless, but it was absolutely NOT the view of the church throughout history and was especially not the view that came out of the Reformation.The Puritans of all people considered this doctrine unbiblical and some even called it the work of the devil. William Perkins called marital sex a due debt or due benevolence. Thomas Hooker wrote, The man whose heart is endeared to the woman he loves, he dreams of her in the night, hath her in his eye and apprehension when he awakes, museth on her as he sits at table, walks with her when he travels and parlies with her in each place where he comes.So significant was the Puritan emphasis on romantic love and intercourse in marriage that C.S. Lewis said, The conversion of courtly love into romantic monogamous love was largely the work of… Puritan poets. On top of that, the Puritans treated the failure to extend marital benefits on the part of either party as a matter to be resolved through church discipline. The Puritans!
1970’s Flip Wilson: The Devil made me do it!Today: God made me do it________________
This is absolutely not true. This was the view of some luminaries of the early church (most notably Ambrose, Jerome, and Tertullian) who concluded that intercourse involved some measure of sin regardless, but it was absolutely NOT the view of the church throughout history and was especially not the view that came out of the Reformation.The Puritans of all people considered this doctrine unbiblical and some even called it the work of the devil. William Perkins called marital sex a due debt or due benevolence. Thomas Hooker wrote, The man whose heart is endeared to the woman he loves, he dreams of her in the night, hath her in his eye and apprehension when he awakes, museth on her as he sits at table, walks with her when he travels and parlies with her in each place where he comes.So significant was the Puritan emphasis on romantic love and intercourse in marriage that C.S. Lewis said, The conversion of courtly love into romantic monogamous love was largely the work of… Puritan poets. On top of that, the Puritans treated the failure to extend marital benefits on the part of either party as a matter to be resolved through church discipline. The Puritans!Calling this belief the influence of Margaret Sanger and the progressive movement on the church is something else. I have to ask — hopefully without getting too personal — given your view that Christian celebration of non-reproductive marital sex is the result of such influence, are you and your wife chaste with the exception of reproductive intercourse?
Definitely Pentecostals. Have you read Stephen Conn’s book Growing up Pentecostal? It was the predominate belief in the early COG. NBF, I have read the book, but while Charles Conn had 10 kids, I didn’t pick up that that was the issue behind it.
Definitely Pentecostals. Have you read Stephen Conn’s book Growing up Pentecostal? It was the predominate belief in the early COG. NBF, I have read the book, but while Charles Conn had 10 kids, I didn’t pick up that that was the issue behind it.I certainly never heard of it, and I was in that same general wave of time. You failed reading didn’t you________________
Definitely Pentecostals. Have you read Stephen Conn’s book Growing up Pentecostal? It was the predominate belief in the early COG. NBF, I have read the book, but while Charles Conn had 10 kids, I didn’t pick up that that was the issue behind it.I certainly never heard of it, and I was in that same general wave of time. You failed reading didn’t you?
I DID, however, read that it was a PERSONAL conviction of Sis. Conn to not practice birth control. But I must have missed the part where Pentecostals in general held to that view.I want to hit back harder, but I’m afraid your fragile mind might snap when faced with my towering intellect!
Definitely Pentecostals. Have you read Stephen Conn’s book Growing up Pentecostal? It was the predominate belief in the early COG. NBF, I have read the book, but while Charles Conn had 10 kids, I didn’t pick up that that was the issue behind it.I certainly never heard of it, and I was in that same general wave of time.
Definitely Pentecostals. Have you read Stephen Conn’s book Growing up Pentecostal? It was the predominate belief in the early COG. NBF, I have read the book, but while Charles Conn had 10 kids, I didn’t pick up that that was the issue behind it.I certainly never heard of it, and I was in that same general wave of time. 12 kids. My Mother-in-Law didn’t believe in birth control. I never heard that they only had sex just to have children. I’ll find my book and find the quote________________