From Chapter 1 – “Being divinely called, as we trust, and looking to God for the guidance of the Holy Spirit who should guide us into all truth and whom Jesus said He would give to them that ask Him, we claim the promises. I have prayed, studied and preached on the doctrines which I do here set forth in the following pages by songs and short lectures, all pointing to a needed reformation among God’s people. But before the reader can feel the need of a reformation from the laws of men to the laws of Christ he should have the laws of God put in his heart and written in his mind. We realize that we cannot reach the millions of noble, pious and loving hearted Christians who are in bondage in the various denominations of the earth, and have never known that they were not keeping God’s law. So we come before the world in this way that we may reach as many as possible. We also kindly ask the reader not to be offended for we must talk plainly. If you find something you don’t believe go to the Testament and if it gives it the lie do not have it. Do not be prejudiced but let the love of God fill your heart.”
Oh, oh, oh. If only the COG, Cleveland had this as direction today. What a mighty army for the LORD it would be. But then I suppose that every denomination has this opportunity, if only they would abandon their “polity”, and take up the Bible as being sufficient for all things needed in Christian living and leadership.
Two scriptures do not support this. One is that women shall not teach men, or have authority over men. The other is that women cannot be the husband of one wife.
And do not back away from declaring this an act of “feminism”, bro Charles. 🙂
The title bishop in the COlG denomnation doesn’t correspond in meaning with the meaning of the word in the Bible. In the denomination it’s an honorific title for long time preachers. In the Bible it has to do with overseeing the church. The issue is about women ‘pastors’ as modern Pentecostals understand that term.
In my humble opinion, from what I can gather, your defintion does not align with Biblical truth. Pastors are elders, as are bishops and they excercise authority over the souls in their care. So I don’t really follow your inunindo.
Daniela Augustine is mistaken about Women being banned from being bishops.
It has been the General Assembly ruling per the established governing structure. It is the executives who set the agenda and the general council, which consist of male bishops, which approve the motions that are sent to the GA for voting. The General Assembly can vote down any motion sent to them from the general council.
It is unfair of her to accuse the church of banning women and her wording perhaps solidifies any resistance toward ordaining women to be bishops.
Women are to be submissive to their husbands because it was the woman that was deceived in the beginning, not the man. It doesn’t say that women aren’t allowed to worship in church, but it does say that they aren’t to be over men. That fact in itself is reason enough why there shouldn’t be women bishop, pastors, deacons, elders, music leaders, or any other position that puts them over men. Period.
It is truly a blessing to see male leaders in church worship and lead by Godly example, I think nothing more spiritually stronger, but sadly the churches are filled with women not because they are ladies,but Father or husband walks away from it all! We need to lead by the example,Jesus gave in the Bible. Love one another. Praying all is well!
Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Overseers – episkopos – bishop, overseer. G1985
1Pe 5:1 The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:
1Pe 5:2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
1Pe 5:3 Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.
Elders – presbuteros – elder, older.
Also note, that these elders had no judicial oversight. But rather, they kept watch over the flock to keep heresies from entering in.
This “judicial oversight” was an invention of Constatine.
http://cogheritage.org/index.php/original_documents/page/the_lost_link_by_r.g._spurling/
There ya go, Charles. Now we both can review the book.
From Chapter 1 – “Being divinely called, as we trust, and looking to God for the guidance of the Holy Spirit who should guide us into all truth and whom Jesus said He would give to them that ask Him, we claim the promises. I have prayed, studied and preached on the doctrines which I do here set forth in the following pages by songs and short lectures, all pointing to a needed reformation among God’s people. But before the reader can feel the need of a reformation from the laws of men to the laws of Christ he should have the laws of God put in his heart and written in his mind. We realize that we cannot reach the millions of noble, pious and loving hearted Christians who are in bondage in the various denominations of the earth, and have never known that they were not keeping God’s law. So we come before the world in this way that we may reach as many as possible. We also kindly ask the reader not to be offended for we must talk plainly. If you find something you don’t believe go to the Testament and if it gives it the lie do not have it. Do not be prejudiced but let the love of God fill your heart.”
Oh, oh, oh. If only the COG, Cleveland had this as direction today. What a mighty army for the LORD it would be. But then I suppose that every denomination has this opportunity, if only they would abandon their “polity”, and take up the Bible as being sufficient for all things needed in Christian living and leadership.
I’m going out for the evening. I’ll pick up this book tomorrow.I look forward to discussing it with you. Shalom.
Two scriptures do not support this. One is that women shall not teach men, or have authority over men. The other is that women cannot be the husband of one wife.
And do not back away from declaring this an act of “feminism”, bro Charles. 🙂
The title bishop in the COlG denomnation doesn’t correspond in meaning with the meaning of the word in the Bible. In the denomination it’s an honorific title for long time preachers. In the Bible it has to do with overseeing the church. The issue is about women ‘pastors’ as modern Pentecostals understand that term.
In my humble opinion, from what I can gather, your defintion does not align with Biblical truth. Pastors are elders, as are bishops and they excercise authority over the souls in their care. So I don’t really follow your inunindo.
Daniela Augustine is mistaken about Women being banned from being bishops.
It has been the General Assembly ruling per the established governing structure. It is the executives who set the agenda and the general council, which consist of male bishops, which approve the motions that are sent to the GA for voting. The General Assembly can vote down any motion sent to them from the general council.
It is unfair of her to accuse the church of banning women and her wording perhaps solidifies any resistance toward ordaining women to be bishops.
Women are to be submissive to their husbands because it was the woman that was deceived in the beginning, not the man. It doesn’t say that women aren’t allowed to worship in church, but it does say that they aren’t to be over men. That fact in itself is reason enough why there shouldn’t be women bishop, pastors, deacons, elders, music leaders, or any other position that puts them over men. Period.
It is truly a blessing to see male leaders in church worship and lead by Godly example, I think nothing more spiritually stronger, but sadly the churches are filled with women not because they are ladies,but Father or husband walks away from it all! We need to lead by the example,Jesus gave in the Bible. Love one another. Praying all is well!
https://www.facebook.com/jim.martin.9889/videos/10151008268072521/
Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Overseers – episkopos – bishop, overseer. G1985
1Pe 5:1 The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:
1Pe 5:2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
1Pe 5:3 Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.
Elders – presbuteros – elder, older.
Also note, that these elders had no judicial oversight. But rather, they kept watch over the flock to keep heresies from entering in.
This “judicial oversight” was an invention of Constatine.
So there must be a “missing link” somewhere.
I agree Bishop
Sho’ nuff!
Only if that is as long as it will grow? If it will grow 10 feet and it is 5 feet it is still long to people but not God so GOD KNOWETH….
A “Profitess” no doubt.
It’s enough of it for sure. Lol.