We already use it in the world today. We don’t want Iran to get nukes. We didn’t like it when North Korea die either.First, where is the line? Is the right to bear arms unlimited? Can I have hand grenades and Stinger missiles? After all, the guvment might be coming for me in jets or helicopters!Can I own machine guns?How about 300 shotguns and 50,000 shells?Is that a collector or a nut?Very simply, we NEED better gun control. That doesn’t mean taking guns away from us or necessarily forbidding us to carry them. It SHOULD mean a waiting period…it should mean a thorough background check, ESPECIALLY for mental/emotional issues…. You get the idea.But red-meat, rabid NRA’ers think every single attempt to improve our world is a conspiracy. Yes, it’s the PERSON who shoots the gun. All the more reason to take greater care about who gets a gun.At the same time, it cannot be ignored that no one is killing people with mastadon tusks or nuclear blasts or mustard gas. That at least implies that if you don’t have that weapon available to you, you’ll not use it when you get really upset. I don’t know the full answer, but it’s clear that we don’t have the answer thus far. If everyone is armed…then the bad guys have arms also. If not one is allowed to be armed…the bad guys might still have guns.
Meth is against the law to buy….but I could purchase some within the hour________________
This guy used handguns – are you advocating outlawing them?While teaching at the local state college last night – I will admit – I wish I had a gun with me.(it is gun free zone). Colleges – with their numerous buildings – would be impossible to have armed guards at every door to enforce the no gun requirement with metal detectors________________
Re: "Gun Control" is not evil…
The problem is that this administration thinks gun control is eliminating guns, which, by the way, is not the problem.If by more gun control laws, they mean that mentally disturbed people should not get them… I am all for that. But what would happen before long is that anyone who wanted a gun would be considered mentally disturbed.Law abiding citizens should not have to go through stricter regulations.So we come back around to the core issue. People who do these kinds of things do not usually walk into a gun store and buy guns. They get them on the street, which is not hard to do.And by the way…. the comment about shotguns and 300 shotguns and 50,000 doesn’t make anyone a nut…. that just means you have an opinion.
YOu are right, it is a tough call. An ‘impossible task’ at present.This same president that wants more (better?) control, himself, picks and chooses the laws the legal arm of government enforces, making laws in many areas a sham.BAck ground checks are not bad, but neither are they conclusive. The privacy of Dr./Patient comes into play. Few folk advertise a mental problem.Mass murders are easier with fire arms, but our enemies have proved they can kill and main very well with many weapons home made and bought.Our country was turned upside down in Boston with pressure cookers.NO EASY ANSWER, JUST FRUSTRATION BECAUSE NO ONE HAS THE SILVER BULLET. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
I own guns myself.But as one person said that my statement just shows I have an opinion, yes, I do. We can all seem to grasp that it’s not cool for any individual to own a nuclear warhead. But that’s really an opinion too, isn’t it? It may be law also, but it is based on opinion.I don’t want to outlaw guns! I am saying, though, that if we didn’t have any, we might still see murders, but you no one is going to go into a classroom with a butcher knife and kill 10 people (unless he’s extremely fast, fortunate, etc.)
In our society there is an honest fear, ‘take one away by law you will eventually take another… and another … until’. An organization or government, seems to work that way.As a builder I had folks laugh at me for being against HOA, but I have been proven correct in this area. (just as an example of adding ‘one more thing) ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
Let it begin with the Secret Service and guards at all government buildings.
How is that working for us–this whole, only outlaws will have guns thing? Wouldn’t that hold true in other countries that have FAR LESS crime? Wouldn’t only their criminals have guns…and yet the crime rate is far less?Do we have some special case of meanness in the U.S. that shows us that, in OUR case, WE have to have guns, even if no one else does?I call a do over. Basically, everyone has the right to hunt and defend themselves against crime…but not against a zombie army (i.e., arsenals).Everyone has the right to guns that are for hunting and self-protection, but not a military-style/grade weapon designed for rapid fire in near-military situations. A shotgun covers just about all contingencies that we are likely to encounter. And if we go beyond likely, then we’re back to questioning why I can’t have my own personal nuke.Everyone (adults) have the right to a gun AFTER a waiting period of several days, a THOROUGH background check, etc. And if you have mental/emotional issues that are found, your request can be declined–or at least you might be prohibited from obtaining anything more than a small caliber, etc. weapon (yes, still deadly, but a fair compromise perhaps).
Just read about a shooting in Australia.Let’s say we have a new law that says you can only own one gun per household. Do your, for a minute, think people will turn in their extra guns? Sure, some law abiding citizens would. What about the others? Do your nothing that law would stop any deranged person from carrying out a mass shooting?
Consider the argument:The claim is that if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Well, one would think that, that being the case, then those countries where guns are not allowed would be wracked with crime after crime after crime. After all, the outlaws have GUNS! And with that firepower, they can pretty much do whatever they want.But instead, we find that countries that do not permit guns (we’re talking advanced nations here) have a MUCH BETTER CRIME RATE than America. That is just the opposite of what we would expect, right? I mean, if you don’t have a gun, there is apparently far less deterrent when it comes to crime. If only criminals have guns, then there is even more motivation for them to create guns, since they will be the only armed person in such a situation.
But correlation does not equal causation. Is their crime rate lower because of gun control or because of other reasons?
Some of it is undoubtedly for other reasons. Internationally, the biggest correlation is between poverty and murder. Nations in Africa, Latin America, the Caribbean and the nations surrounding Russia all have higher murder rates than the US. European countries and those in Oceania (such as Australia and New Zealand) generally have murder rates much lower than the US.But the US is a real statistical outlier because it is a prosperous nation with a murder rate that is five times that of must other developed nations________________Senior Pastor, Solid Rock Church, DroghedaNational Overseer, Church of God, IrelandExecutive Director, Evangelical Alliance Irelandeaiseanchai.wordpress.com/
Aaron, you are misinformed about a number of things on this issue….beginning with the assumption that rapid fire military weapons are available to the public. Next, what do you think a waiting period is going to accomplish? So, a potential shooter can’t commit a murder today. SO what? He waits the prescribed period and buys the gun.Finally, you say people with emotinal issues should only be allowed to have small caliber weapons. Great. Give that person a Ruger 10/22 with a 30 round magazine and watch how much damage he can do. You mention shotguns….do you know how much damage a 12 gauge semi-automatic weapon can do, when loaded with 00 buckshot?You aren’t getting it and I’m not trying to be rude. If a person wants a gun….he can get a gun________________
Aaron, you are misinformed about a number of things on this issue….beginning with the assumption that rapid fire military weapons are available to the public. Next, what do you think a waiting period is going to accomplish? So, a potential shooter can’t commit a murder today. SO what? He waits the prescribed period and buys the gun.Finally, you say people with emotinal issues should only be allowed to have small caliber weapons. Great. Give that person a Ruger 10/22 with a 30 round magazine and watch how much damage he can do. You mention shotguns….do you know how much damage a 12 gauge semi-automatic weapon can do, when loaded with 00 buckshot?You aren’t getting it and I’m not trying to be rude. If a person wants a gun….he can get a gun. PS..are you aware that Oregon had JUST strengthened its gun laws________________