I was at a community prayer time the other day and ran into a friend I haven’t seen in literally 35 years and in our sharing, he advised he was a proud viewer of SBC (had one of those big black JSM New Testaments jammed into his pocket somehow) and that he wanted to know if I knew Tim Hill was to be preaching there, pressing home that the Message of the Cross was the truth.I asked him how important the resurrection of Jesus was. And like most any other Swaggartite I’ve ever met or talked to over the years, he promptly told me it was not, that Cross was paramount. I asked him about 1 Cor 15and asked him to read the first four verses of it in his big NT. He wouldn’t. The conversation stayed friendly even as it got intensely heated. I found other old friends caught up in a Swaggart-based church in the area. A very sad day. Here’s hoping the real full gospel gets proclaimed today________________www.spiritwatch.orgAm I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16
Good to see you back, Rafael. Maybe you’ve been back a while and I just haven’t read the forum enough to see. When I went to Family Worship Center in the 1980’s, it seemed like Jimmy Swaggart emphasized the resurrection in his evangelism, at least to the extent that he relied heavily on Romans 10:9-10for the sinner’s prayer. Does He now say anything that indicates that he does not think the resurrection of Christ is not important, or that it is less important than the cross? Is it just certain Swaggart fans that think that way because he talks about the centrality of the cross so much and makes out like other Christians and other Pentecostals in particular don’t do the same________________
I don’t watch Swaggert.Got family that does.RDM is right! ________________Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church
Suppose ol’ Jimmy got a reciprocal preaching engagement out of the deal________________“Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”
I did not see nor hear the sermon, BUT my wife HEARD this while attending the Hardee’s old people’s breakfast time with her classmates in Class of 56.Did anyone see a Rev Hill on TV yesterday? My wife and I were touched and blessed listening to him, does any one here know of him? This was from two staunch Southern Baptist friends of my wife. She was shocked to hear that and said Yes I know him!I thought I would just report that! It was an unsolicited compliment to a Rev. Hill. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
Since most camp meetings are on video, could you please provide one where Tim Hill said “I’m the general overseer, I can do whatever I want?†Somewhere, I read something about bearing a false witness. I think it was pretty serious. http://www.facebook.com/alabamacog/videos/1554713027885675/1:22 skip to there.“You wanna know what’s best thing about being General Overseer is? When you get the mic and you get on stage and you don’t want to preach and you wanna sing all night, you can do that.â€There is your video proof and quote from his lips not mine.People come to camp meeting to be fed the word of God, not the songs of Tim Hill and whatever he wants to do.
I went to 1:22.Tim Hill was not even on the platform.I’ll tell you this though.When the Holy Ghost moves.I’m moving with Him.Every time, all day long! ________________Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church
Seriously! And it’s his usual MO to sing a few songs. Not preach if he doesn’t want to? I think he is one of those preachers (and I say this respectfully) that would rather preach than eat (or just about anything else.) Has anyone ever seen him in a service where he didn’t preach________________More of Him…less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name
Here’s a link to the service if you haven’t seen it. I haven’t yet…www.facebook.com/sonlifebroadcastingnetwork/videos/1874945322524132/From what I understand, he preached about the power of Pentecost________________More of Him…less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name
I am fine with playful banter, but if it is a mindset that’s where I have issue. I never heard Dennis, Raymond, or Mark while GO make a joke like that. They were outstanding servants of the church that I feel fought for a lot. My opinion, it’s dangerous to the progression of our organization to allow what I have witnessed. It has set us back more than a few years. If we don’t care now the COG will Gray out/ age our with no strength or mobility to progress left. It is already starting to happen. Our system can’t openly say anything because a majority of executive council is from mission with the most to lose frok change and hold this is what is holding the power of appointment. Meaning any question for clarity will be met with predecided thoughts________________
Perhaps now we can put to rest the rumor that JS wants to come into the COG________________More of Him…less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name
Hmm .. Hope he preaches on the Resurrection
I was at a community prayer time the other day and ran into a friend I haven’t seen in literally 35 years and in our sharing, he advised he was a proud viewer of SBC (had one of those big black JSM New Testaments jammed into his pocket somehow) and that he wanted to know if I knew Tim Hill was to be preaching there, pressing home that the Message of the Cross was the truth.I asked him how important the resurrection of Jesus was. And like most any other Swaggartite I’ve ever met or talked to over the years, he promptly told me it was not, that Cross was paramount. I asked him about 1 Cor 15and asked him to read the first four verses of it in his big NT. He wouldn’t. The conversation stayed friendly even as it got intensely heated. I found other old friends caught up in a Swaggart-based church in the area. A very sad day. Here’s hoping the real full gospel gets proclaimed today________________www.spiritwatch.orgAm I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16
Since most camp meetings are on video, could you please provide one where Tim Hill said “I’m the general overseer, I can do whatever I want?â€
Re: Hmm .. Hope he preaches on the Resurrection
Good to see you back, Rafael. Maybe you’ve been back a while and I just haven’t read the forum enough to see. When I went to Family Worship Center in the 1980’s, it seemed like Jimmy Swaggart emphasized the resurrection in his evangelism, at least to the extent that he relied heavily on Romans 10:9-10for the sinner’s prayer. Does He now say anything that indicates that he does not think the resurrection of Christ is not important, or that it is less important than the cross? Is it just certain Swaggart fans that think that way because he talks about the centrality of the cross so much and makes out like other Christians and other Pentecostals in particular don’t do the same________________
Amen________________
I don’t watch Swaggert.Got family that does.RDM is right! ________________Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church
Suppose ol’ Jimmy got a reciprocal preaching engagement out of the deal________________“Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”
I did not see nor hear the sermon, BUT my wife HEARD this while attending the Hardee’s old people’s breakfast time with her classmates in Class of 56.Did anyone see a Rev Hill on TV yesterday? My wife and I were touched and blessed listening to him, does any one here know of him? This was from two staunch Southern Baptist friends of my wife. She was shocked to hear that and said Yes I know him!I thought I would just report that! It was an unsolicited compliment to a Rev. Hill. ________________Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/
Since most camp meetings are on video, could you please provide one where Tim Hill said “I’m the general overseer, I can do whatever I want?†Somewhere, I read something about bearing a false witness. I think it was pretty serious. http://www.facebook.com/alabamacog/videos/1554713027885675/1:22 skip to there.“You wanna know what’s best thing about being General Overseer is? When you get the mic and you get on stage and you don’t want to preach and you wanna sing all night, you can do that.â€There is your video proof and quote from his lips not mine.People come to camp meeting to be fed the word of God, not the songs of Tim Hill and whatever he wants to do.
I went to 1:22.Tim Hill was not even on the platform.I’ll tell you this though.When the Holy Ghost moves.I’m moving with Him.Every time, all day long! ________________Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church
If a dude is anointed – I want him to do whatever the Spirit prompts him to do.Sing, preach, shout, take an offering…anything________________
Seriously! And it’s his usual MO to sing a few songs. Not preach if he doesn’t want to? I think he is one of those preachers (and I say this respectfully) that would rather preach than eat (or just about anything else.) Has anyone ever seen him in a service where he didn’t preach________________More of Him…less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name
Here’s a link to the service if you haven’t seen it. I haven’t yet…www.facebook.com/sonlifebroadcastingnetwork/videos/1874945322524132/From what I understand, he preached about the power of Pentecost________________More of Him…less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name
I am fine with playful banter, but if it is a mindset that’s where I have issue. I never heard Dennis, Raymond, or Mark while GO make a joke like that. They were outstanding servants of the church that I feel fought for a lot. My opinion, it’s dangerous to the progression of our organization to allow what I have witnessed. It has set us back more than a few years. If we don’t care now the COG will Gray out/ age our with no strength or mobility to progress left. It is already starting to happen. Our system can’t openly say anything because a majority of executive council is from mission with the most to lose frok change and hold this is what is holding the power of appointment. Meaning any question for clarity will be met with predecided thoughts________________
That booking was supposed to be mine. I wanted to preach that service ________________
Perhaps now we can put to rest the rumor that JS wants to come into the COG________________More of Him…less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name